The Regime
Call me paranoid, but this sort of thing disturbs me. The state has decided that private pharmacists MUST provide the "morning after" pill. Details about this drug is ambiguous, by which I mean I have seen conflicting reports about whether this in fact does procure an abortion post-conception. Note this article states that the drug does not affect a "pregnant woman" but does that necessarily imply implantation of the fertilized egg?
Either way, "Plan B" is NOT a medically necessary drug. And the government forcing private companies to provide controversial products such as this is a little frightening. What's next?
Why not force ALL OB-GYN's to perform abortions? Why not after all, it is a "lawful" procedure and ought to be available "regardless of an individual" OB-GYN's "personal objections to any particular" procedure.
Also note that our governor managed this "compromise" by threatening to replace the State Pharmacy Board members who previously had stood up for pharmacists rights. Something tells me a different executive officer would not have fared well under a media onslaught after such a threat.
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Prevention of a fertilized egg from implanting is abortion, IMHO. I wouldn't sell it.
My uncle is a phamacist, and I remember when his eldest daughter was engaged she brought the insert from a package of Pills and asked him if the drugs in them could possibly cause an early abortion. He looked at it and said that it absolutely could.
You know, I'm dating a biochemist, and I live with a pro-life pharmaco-geneticist. I should have them look this stuff up.
1. Oral Contraceptives (see Arielle comments)
2. Any other hormone based contraceptive (norplant, the ring, etc.)
2. IUD's of various kinds
And if that is the case, then why are you not against pharmacys providing birth control pills (which I am fairly certain they are required to carry)?
If a devout Roman Catholic owns a drug store and refuses to sell ANY form of birth control then I absolutely uphold their right to do so and I think it is a travesty for Christine Gregoire to say and impose otherwise.
That being said, lets not try and play silly moral equivalence games here. Yes, any form of birth control that prevents a fertilized egg from implantation is a form of abortion. Okay? I've nailed my colors to the mast. I mean what did you expect to find me an ignorant hypocrite?
I don't care if pharmacies want to carry it...but I care A LOT if the government starts dictating what morals we may hold to as private individuals.
does that mean that roe v wade is just about birth control? Wasn't Birth Control legal prior to the decision?
ducking -
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Btw, re the govt. control. Really, they do it all the time, that's what the "law" is all about. Regulating behaviour regardless of what a person may believe about it.
Incidently, it's also what civil disobedience is all about.
Ultimatly I think this is a crass political move Mistress Christine's part. Some court somewhere is going to affirm the right of a shop owner to not sell stuff.
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I really am not able to tell you much about the relationship between Plan B and standard BCP. As I said in the post, I've heard conflicting arguments about whether Plan B is an "abortion pill".
While I am definitely a pro-lifer I'm not going to argue too much about the legality of these and other drugs that MIGHT cause abortions. I mean, you can have a full blown abortion legally after all.
Please see my point as I noted above: I'm very much a libertarian on such issues. Privately owned businesses should be allowed to conduct their businesses as they see fit - particuarly within the bounds of their own morality...within reason of course. The notion that birth control...particularly emergency types...is a medical necessity is just plainly insidious.
Count me clueless...no need to duck...I miss the point sir.
Btw, re the govt. control. Really, they do it all the time, that's what the "law" is all about. Regulating behaviour regardless of what a person may believe about it.
Of course they do it all the time, but to what degree? There is SOME line they cannot cross, right?
Obviously I think this goes too far. How about my example of ALL OB-GYN's being forced to offer abortions. Or better yet, how about that obscure and little know Orthodox gay group "axios" is someday down the road able mount enough political capitol to sue the GOA to give them weddings.
At what point does our Church behavior (e.g. banning gays from receiving the sacrament of marriage) need to be regulated by the government?
Forcing people to provide items they find morally repugnant is a great place to start down that road. As far as I'm concerned you might as well force Pete of Uncle Peteza to sell porn. After all Porn addicts have rights too.
ah, now I'm just gettin weekend crazy.
Some court somewhere is going to affirm the right of a shop owner to not sell stuff.
Hope so....sad though that someone will have to go through all that trouble to do it.
The point is that a lot more people get riled up about an abortion discussion than they do about a birth control discussion. That's why it was so stinking easy for Mistress Christine to lay the smack down on the poor pharmisists.
Fundamentally, Arial is right, many forms of birth control are in fact abortifacients. It's the emotional issues involved in those two ideas which are a different.
Duramed has done a FABULOUS job of marketing this drug as birth control, not abortion on demand. Anon's post shows that in spades. Could have been written by Duramed. Look at what the name of the drug says about it too.
When it comes to the rights of contientious objectors to Gov't policy, we have no rights that we're not willing to die for. It's entirely possible that the govt to say that our stance on gay marrige is a violation of civil rights. If enough pepople agree w/ axios... We might find out what freedom's really all about.
I'll let you know if I figure it out.
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One wonders how we can look upon Spartan society with such disdain...we've just cleaned up and sterilized our infanticide and furthermore do it NOT for the betterment of society, but usually the for the convenience of self.
I would imagine dosing up on BCP would make it FAR more likely to prevent a fertilized egg from implanting and really what IS the time frame for fertilization post-coitus? Minutes? Hours? Days? I dunno.
Seems to me though if you are working Plan B you are CERTAINLY upping the odds that you'll be doing more than preventing ovulation.
More and more I find myself in line with the strict Catholic understanding...easy for me though as I've finalized - I think - my child bearing ventures.
Worrying about what evangelical pro-lifers think and worry about is off my radar. As you all know my new convert kneejerks to hold their positions in some form of lofty derision has also since left.
Really, protesting pro-lifers ought to also be protesting invitro fertilization which often leads to many embryos being killed through the process or - if congress gets their way - farmed out to be experimented upon.